OIdea:

• there was a discussion on irc on possibly announcing a chaostreff in SF
• bill pollock seems to want to run a hackerspace in his basement.
• possibly combine those 2 things
  
  

status:
mc.fly talked to bill. Bill likes the idea a lot. 


why this pad?

• store and coordinate ideas
  
  
  
  

ToDo:

• #1 talk to bill - check. 
• #2 meet with bill document the space
  
  
  
  

Howto Pad:

• give yourself a name
• add the name to the participants list (so if you change things people can determinate by the color who did it)
  
  

#1 talk to bill
talked to bill on the phone - Yay!
he is in germany and will be back in SF on tuesday. 
i talked to him for around 10min, we were both in a hurry
i till talk to him again today evening.

bill wants _no noisebridge_ but he would like a ccc alike thingie.
it has some restrictions but he likes the idea.
he wants a focus on what i think you call STEM - science, technology, engineering. math...
no occupy
there will only be a tea kitchen
you can meet at his old room so far.
"if nothing else it can be used as a starting space."
he likes the idea of a more inclusive space,  not open to everyone.
and he wants to be part of it
and yeah, no noisebridge, no drama.


Questions: 

• What do we need to make a chaostreff happen, vs what we need to make a hackerspace work with bill? What are the dependencies of each?
  • chaostreff and bill's space are independent. it seems to be a good point to start as location.
  • bill likes the CCC and goes to Congress every year
  • 2 options exist: 
    • it could be a ccc meeting at the hackerspace or
    • it could be a ccc meeting running the whole hackerspace
  • it needed to be paid attention that a local group would not run into bill and bring tons of drama to bill (the attraktor situation)
    • Policies to address situations that lead to drama?
      • (I largely left Noisebridge because someone yelled at me to try to get me to lift a block I had regarding Mitch as ED - I wanted the next generation to have involvement while the previous generation was still active and interested, but the manner the discussion went down forestalled the entire discussion.)
      • Fauxminists, hippies and other attempts for a specific interest to exert arbitrary control over others
        
        

people writing in this pad / participating in the discussion:

• mc.fly
• steen
• Christie
• daravinne
• $your name here