* hard to find reliable hoster in germany * become AS * moves problem to larger ISPs * high pressure on ISPs. we do not understand this * might be afraid to be reponsible * whois of ip should return organization, abuse@ and not the ISP... * if you have your own AS, you can get the ISP or hoster to delegate the whois/ripe records of your IPs to your AS, so you get all the automated abuse mails * Emphasise that this will reduce abuse emails directed to them * related: experience with certain providers etc * https://www.torservers.net/wiki/hoster/index * https://www.torservers.net/wiki/hoster/experience * Issues with experienced exit node operators spoiling the reputation of tor w/ ISPs * it is not that bad to have a strong organization running relays * there is always an organization (and the community) to help single relay operators in case of $fire * T-Shirts * Still waiting * later.